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12 week accountability check in with Skye Taylor. Did she meet her goals?
Skye had some really big goals she wanted to reach....spoiler alert! She didn't reach them at our 12 week check in, but she has shared her story of our life has looked these last few months and how her success has still been incredible considering she threw in a three trips/holidays during this time.
This conversation is about setting goals, the mindset when they are not achieved and setting new ones.
While Skye has had her business for a while now, she has only recently gone Full Time into the entrepreneurial role so these check ins with her are vital to assist her in making decisions for the next stage. The next stage for her is "when should she hire a VA and should she go through a company or privately". We discuss these in open.
We also discuss the secrets to increased productivity and the delicate balance between authenticity and perfectionism. With practical strategies such as time blocking and leveraging digital tools like the iPhone Reminder app, boost your efficiency and stay organized. The episode closes with a focus on progress tracking and accountability, emphasizing the importance of planning follow-up meetings to ensure ongoing success.
Thank you Skye for being so open to publicly sharing your journey! I look forward to our next check in.
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Oh my god, 12 weeks goes so fast and I have got Skye Taylor back for her second podcast to talk about those goals. Welcome back, skye. Thank you.
Speaker 2:I am shocked at how fast 12 weeks went. It really was long enough.
Speaker 1:And I'm so glad that we had booked it in. So, for those that don't remember or didn't listen to the podcast, sky and I did we did it about 12 weeks ago. Sky was starting full time in her business, she had some questions and then we set some goals for that 12 week mark and I think one of the things I'm happy that we did is we scheduled it in straight away, so it was already in. I won't lie, I was sort of expecting you to like message me and say, ash, can we postpone it? It's come around so quick and good on you for not doing that, but it's gone. It's gone quick. So run us through how you've been going in the last three months.
Speaker 2:Yeah, every part of me wanted to message you and go can I just have one more month? Cause I really wanted to be like, yes, I hit my goals, but I remembered what you said around whether you hit the goal or not. I think it's still important that we revisit this. So I had 30 properties when I quit my full-time job and came full-time into the business. I've hit 50% of that goal, so I wanted to hit 60. It was a great idea, but, yeah, I've gotten to exactly 45.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean that's great. It's progress in the right direction first up, so that's very good. Do you think that the goal you had was achievable? Was there any struggles that you had that, like that, contributed to not meeting that?
Speaker 2:goal? Yeah, absolutely. I think it was a big, hairy, audacious goal, which I think is important to have, because you know, if I had only set, I'd like to hit 45,. Well then, did I end up at 36? So I think it's good to always aim as high as possible, because I'm really happy with that, because all of October.
Speaker 2:So I quit on the 20th of September and I had two interstate trips in October and an overseas trip in October, so I was pretty much gone for the whole month. I still signed up, I think, four properties in that time, which I'm really happy with. But the trips that I took away, they weren't planned. I wasn't expecting to have that much time off in the one month. It started with a bit of an entrepreneur conference in Queensland and then we did the IGT conference in Brisbane and then I took my children to Bali for our annual trip, which was important, and it's just been such a crazy time, not only catching up from being away, um, but I've listed most of those properties in November. Like, it's been an absolutely crazy time. So, um, and there's lots in the pipeline, which is why I thought if we did it in December I'd probably have better results. But that's fine.
Speaker 1:No, no, I like this. I think it's good for people to hear it. And then we just did a session with Hermione Gardner and one thing she spoke about is like reframing, like your mindset with a few things. So I guess I was just going to reframe what you just said and say like how amazing that you have not only grown your business, you know, by 50%, you've also been able to have a family holiday, do a personal or do some more um, one probably more business um development and then one more personal development course. Like you've been able to do all of that and still grow, which is pretty cool, because otherwise, if you felt like um and not saying that for any moment, that you don't work hard, but if you didn't have those little um bits pieces, those fun things as well you would have probably kicked yourself a little bit more and just thought oh, like I worked so hard, like you know, 12 hours a day, and I still didn't get my goal.
Speaker 1:But instead you can go. Oh, I still did this and this and this and. I still did pretty well.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, I still did this and this and this, and I still did pretty well, absolutely still enjoyed the journey and still got pretty good results, I think for that period and it's just going to get better from here and I think, you know, taking that leap, which was something we spoke about and now, looking back, I wish I'd done it earlier, but taking that that leap was really.
Speaker 2:I think the biggest thing I've learned was about mindset. Not once have I been stressed about whether this is going to work Like I just know it will, and I always didn't want to go into, I guess, lounge rooms with clients and have that desperation or that needy energy and I haven't had that, mainly because it's been so busy. But I haven't ever had that doubt that this is not going to work because I'm doing all of the activities that I know will pay dividends eventually. So I think that's been a real learning lesson for me that I thought that I would be holding myself back and it turns out that out that, yeah, having the right mindset and belief in yourself is really all you need.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the. I think that, with the situation that you're in, with that good, those good numbers, which are great numbers, do you feel that you, if you were setting yourself another goal actually first up, do you plan to set yourself another numbers? Do you feel that you, if you were setting yourself another goal actually first up, do you plan to set yourself another goal? Do you normally do that?
Speaker 2:yes, so I'm still pushing for that magic 60 um by the end of the year, but um, I know it does quieten down over Christmas, but um, traditionally it's been busy for me. So I'm hoping that we'll get there, at worst case, by the end of January. But I literally had a meeting with someone yesterday who's got 14 properties, so we might get there a lot quicker.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I remember the time when I was at 90 and my goal was 100 and I had someone walk in and I always tell this story because it's a good one. He came in and he's an old man, very scruffy looking, little tiny, like you know farmer, like stubby shorts and very basic looking, came in and he had a little crappy bed sit in Vic Park, which is you know a place where in Perth where there's loads of little apartments, and it was probably worth like $180 per week. Anyway, he came into the office. I sat there and I did the new management stuff with him I think he actually might have just been a walk-in, gave him the time and then at the end of the conversation he said you can have the property.
Speaker 1:It was like fantastic, but I wasn't that excited because it was a bit of a crappy one. But then he turns around and he goes to me I've got 14 of them and that got me over the goal and he said that people, um, he actually had brought it up that he had a lot of people not give him the time, um, because he presented the way he presented um, and I gave him that time and treated him like I would anyone which I mean to me, of course you would do that, but, um, yeah, some, some people don't and that got me over. So that was quite critical. So I'd love yeah, it'd be awesome if that was the same story for you.
Speaker 2:Absolutely and hopefully that is the case, but it's almost highlighted for me the fact that it would cause a lot of additional work that I'm perhaps not ready for. So those 14 properties, if they come across, it would be January, so it was almost a question that I was going to have a chat with you beforehand, but we might as well do it here.
Speaker 1:Because I didn't. I said just for context. When Sky started talking, I was like hold on, I'm pressing record, let's have this discussion online. Discussion online. So yes, let's just have it online yeah.
Speaker 2:So a lot of what I spoke to you about last time was I wanted to get my systems ready. I wanted to be in a position to take on 14 properties without it causing me undue stress. Um, not quite there yet, but thinking ahead. I'm hearing a lot of people say that you know, 50 is the number you want to start looking at, because a VA would be my first step and I think you said it a number of people have said 50 is sort of that magic number for the numbers to make sense and you kind of want to take on support before you need the support from multiple people. So, thinking that through, there's obviously a number of agencies who offer that and can help you get set up. But I remember you were saying you found someone through LinkedIn.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I think what I found and it's probably different now, but when I had started using VAs, it was really the only option was full-time and they didn't really have those part-time options. But for me I do have a mix. I've got a mix. I've got one that is through an agency and then I've got two that are personal. Yeah, I've taken directly from LinkedIn, so there's I can't remember, but I think these people had approached me and the reason why I went private was definitely driven by price, because I was personally paying for someone. I wanted someone personally to just pay 10 hours a week or 20 hours a week to help me with my LinkedIn connections and just keeping all that backend stuff running. So for me it wasn't a business expense, it was me personally. So that's what I went down the road of doing and I have had her for over 12 months, maybe probably pushing now close to two years, and she's amazing and she just helps me with so much. She keeps me accountable, she, you know, the other day she emailed me and said, ash, you don't have another podcast scheduled in, and I'm like, no, that's all good, I've got it ready to send to you. So things like that, I find are really helpful. I think everyone should have a personal VA. So if you go through an agency it just feels a bit more formal, which I get that you need when they're having access to your systems and things like that as well. But I am seeing a lot of trends with the privately employing VAs.
Speaker 1:I think that there's pros and cons for both options. I think if someone was particularly nervous, then going through an agency is a fantastic option. Then going through an agency is a fantastic option. If you're a little bit more, you know a bit more of a risk taker like me, then you can go down that road. But there's things that, like I did with making sure that my IT department had accessed their computer and put everything on the. You know the cyber stuff. I don't even know what it is. I trust my IT department to put the right stuff on. So they did all that.
Speaker 1:I couldn't, um would I go. So and I'm probably rambling on this a little bit because I'm sort of thinking of what I would do if I would I get rid of my um VA through the company and only have personal? I don't know. I don't know if I would. I actually do like having one through a company for stability, um, but I definitely like having. I like having my personal one. So it's a bit of a long answer, but if you are driven like you, I imagine would be driven by price to a certain extent. So, and and also the time you you don't necessarily want to say I want 40 hours a week, maybe you just want. You just want like a, you just want a personal PA that can just be another Sky, that can do what you do but just help you like just a business best friend, like that's what you want, and you don't necessarily want all the formality that comes with it.
Speaker 1:You just want someone like you know mine. I can just message on WhatsApp or whatever. Hey, can you quickly stick this photo? Can you do this? Can you do that Like for me? I love that style. I think that that would suit you pretty well as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've had someone reach out and, while I haven't interviewed her as such, I guess I was trying to think through what are the things I need to think about if I do go private for that. But I love the idea of being able to take someone on part-time and have them grow with me in the business, potentially, and just to have that flexibility. Because, yeah, you're right, the agencies are more full-time and there wouldn't be enough work for them. They'd be twiddling their thumbs at this point. But it would be good to take on someone beforehand so that it's not like I'm too busy to onboard someone and I don't want them to then have a poor experience.
Speaker 1:I feel like there's. Also, I find that I have more connection with my personal VAs as opposed to my ones for the agency as well, and I don't know why that is. I think it's probably because the personal ones are a bit more flexible with time, like mine, have got children, so you know they send you school pictures if they're at assembly, but then they, you know, check in if you need anything on a Saturday or a Sunday, like that is probably like that suits some people's lifestyle and given that you're a solo business owner, that probably does work, you know, spread out over seven days a week, then having someone flexible like that as well is really helpful. So I think you should take the risk and do it. I think it's very affordable to do it personally and I approach mine by just saying listen, I've never had a VA before, so it's very new to me. I think I only need you for 20 hours a week and I just want to give it a go for three months and see how it goes.
Speaker 1:I was very honest with that and I mean, two years later she's still there.
Speaker 1:So like that's how, like even if you just I think for me, when I make decisions, I always sort of look at like the worst case and in my mind I would.
Speaker 1:I was like, well, three months at 20 hours per week, this is what it's going to cost me to give it a go, and it wasn't a lot of money.
Speaker 1:So it's like I'm happy to risk that, to give it a go and see. Um, but you really probably I say you'd want to get onto that relatively quickly, and what you can start doing now just to prep, because you might say, well, I don't want anyone to start till January what I would start doing now is, every time you're doing something like whether it's a lease agreement or setting up a new tenant in your system or advertising a property I would start, just like using Loom or Zoom, to just start recording those videos and just have them then in a Google Drive. So I'd set it up in a Google Drive with offshore training and every time you do a task, just record it, pop it in there, so that then when you do get someone, you can say, hey, here's a heap of videos if you can go through and watch them, and then you've already got a bit of a head start.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I started doing that while I was in bali right excellent. Love the loom, um, and I think that's you know such a great technology to use so that they can just watch the videos. So, yeah, okay, thank you. I might have a chat with her and see if we can work something out.
Speaker 1:So I did the interview with them on Zoom, got to know them a little bit more, but then I went through their socials and had a look and got a feel for them there as well and then find out what programs they've used before. If they've used, you know whether it's PropertyMe and realestatecom or whatever it is IRA just check to see what ones they've used and which ones they haven't as well. So I would probably recommend that you check that and that's it. From that I was able to gauge enough.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when you've got the people management experience, so you can. Usually, I think when you've got got that background, it's pretty easy to make a gut decision. Yeah, I think you know what is that. Yeah, I'm saying hire slow and fire fast, but I think generally when we first meet someone we know if they're the right fit for us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, totally, we um the other interview sorry, not interviewed the other um other week I was doing a podcast with Sam, my BDM, and um, she said to her, okay, tell everyone about your history and, um, you know your background. And she was like Ash, I don't even know if you know this. And I was like, no, I don't, because if you gave me a resume, I wouldn't have read it, I would have just gone on you as a person. So I actually don't really know your history. So, so we had a bit of a chuckle about that because, yeah, I'm always on gut fuel. So, goals, a couple of things. I just want to ask you now the goals with what you had before and next time. When you set goals, I sometimes fall into the trap of setting safe goals where I say to myself okay, well, I did 15 properties in the last three months and my goal is to continue doing five a month. Do you do that as well? Or do you push it and say, well, no, next time I want to do seven per month?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think I'm a bit of both Like it's comfortable to set a safe goal and in my head I can't see past 60 because to me that's like the magic number where it doesn't matter that I don't have a full-time job. So, yeah, you've actually prompted me that I need to set goals past January and what that looks like. So I'll be doing that later today, thank you, and I think, doing that later today, thank you, and I think, yeah, I want to set big goals because this particular exercise has shown me that if I'd set a safe goal, I don't think I would have reached the one that I did.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, but you've got to also be careful that you don't go.
Speaker 2:oh, I'm going to set that goal, because then I can get this goal.
Speaker 1:Like you know what I mean, it's a bit of a um, like I mean, because that's how I would do it as well, but I would fall into the trap yeah, probably big that you're then like I'm never going to achieve it and you discourage yourself yeah, and I mean other things that you could do, and you've actually these already.
Speaker 1:but, um, like you say, you've got your goal of 60, which is great, but you know if there's any other personal goals or little trips you want to do with the kids, or you know, when I get to this, you know this number, then I'm going to look in a day spot for the day, or you know something like that. Do you have any little personal things attached to your goals as well?
Speaker 2:That's what I want to do. Um, I was having this conversation with someone else about setting rewards goals, so, um, again, I've only done it to 60, but in my fridge is a bottle of verve with the 50 on it, so when I hit 50 we're drinking that, and then there's another bottle um with the number 60 on it. But I do want to set some bigger rewards for meeting the bigger goals. So I haven't thought about those, but I will. I'm going to Boracay in April on the IGT leaders retreat, right? So the goal is 100 properties by then, which feels impossible. But yeah, then you get clients walking and go. I've got 14 properties. So who knows?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that's a very achievable goal. I think you should be adding onto that goal that not only do you want those 100 properties, you want to have a full-time VA to handle, you know, 70% of the workload. So when you go to Boracay, you can like enjoy it like really enjoy.
Speaker 1:It that's right, like I think that that should absolutely be one of the goals as well, just to have someone full-time by the time you go away. Enjoy this trip. So add that in. Um. Tell me about the um. Well, we can talk about both, but the um, uh, the first conference that you had, I don't think you'd been to, had you been to it when we last spoke um, that was it more of a social media or yeah, it was.
Speaker 2:Um, it was called dream fest and it was basically two days, just a bunch of entrepreneurs in the room and talking about branding and marketing, and it was just really good energy to be around like at that point. Like you know, your network is your net worth type of attitude, like who you surround yourself with, it was really it was a great start to being full-time in the business is there anything that you learned that you still like implement today or that you would sort of advise as a good tip?
Speaker 2:yeah, so there was some key messages around making offers. A lot of the people in the room were more of an online course type of sales business, but certainly how we do an appraisal, how do we package up that offer so that it's appealing and it could be as simple as the words we're using, so like offering bonuses if you sign by the 30th of November, for example, like just that more persuasive selling that I think I wasn't doing beforehand, and some really key takeaways on marketing and branding and identifying what your brand is, whether that's the business brand or the personal brand. So I definitely got a lot out of it. Haven't implemented everything as yet, but yeah, it's like the implementation list is so long and we get so caught up working in the business that my challenge is finding the time to work on the business in the business that my challenge is finding the time to work on the business.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love doing conferences and training outside of real estate, so things like what you did for me and you've got the same brain where you know how to implement what they're saying into your own business as well. I work a lot these days on my business. I work a lot these days on my business and I won't lie, it was the first time when I was at the IGT conference with you this year that I normally have like a really long implementation list and I'm really good at implementing, so I've got a good system for it. But I also have just hired when we were away, had hired an operations manager and I had hired an operations manager and I've never had an operations manager or any type of management and I won't lie that list of things that I was thinking of during the IGT. I just went straight to Marissa and I was like she was like my to-do list. I was like do this, do that, explore this? So it was very different for me. It was the first time in 20 years I've ever been able to do that and that was really cool. So she is like doing all my implementing. So it's like I've got all the ideas and I'm like can you please get quotes for this and do this? How amazing, so good, so good.
Speaker 1:But I think that, like I find most of my time these days just because I'm not in hands-on, managing is very much all lead generation, which all comes down to personal branding and marketing and things like that. So I do spend a lot of time doing that these days, which does bring money and leads into the business, which is good and helps with the system. So it pretty, it's a pretty cool position to be in to get to that. When you can, you know, hand off your day to day duties, which will be. I would imagine, from what I know of you, that that would sort of be. One of the next sort of goals is to have someone doing more of that day to day stuff for you, because I imagine you do love the lead generation, the personal branding, like that's your sweet spot.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, and it's like what we spoke about last time working in your zone of genius, so you enjoy it. That's been like in the back of my head for the last 12 weeks. So, absolutely, I don't enjoy sitting there typing up leads for renewals. I enjoy being out there, a key part of like. I've tracked where my leads have come in um and 50% of them are referral, which has either been through you know my strategic alliances but they've essentially come about from my personal brand. So I'm the same as you and I won't deviate from that plan because that's what's paying off for me as well. So, yeah, I noticed, find those so you can enjoy the journey. For those times when I'm sitting there at midnight typing up whatever I need to type up um, looking for the fun parts of it are you doing more than a traditional 40 hours?
Speaker 1:do you find are you? Are you going over over that?
Speaker 2:yes, and that's part of what, um, I guess has been a bit of the frustration for me lately is because it's only 40 odd properties, like why am I this busy? But it's I'm looking at all the other things that I'm implementing. Um, it's definitely more than 40 hours, but it's probably more of the business related stuff. Plus, I'd spoken to you last time. I'd said I was looking at upgrading my property me. I didn't really have my systems in place, which I upgraded it and I wish I'd upgraded it sooner. So for anyone on a basic subscription, please get standard changed my life right, um, just in terms of the process and making things quicker. So I wasn't forgetting anything like the checklist function in task saved me there.
Speaker 2:Um, and even just down to we last spoke, we were putting in a CRM and you'd recommended that I invest my time and money into getting a CRM, which I've've done. I've got the CRM, but now I'm finding I'm investing the time to learn how to use it. So there's all those sorts of things that I guess are taking up my time and just little tweaks, like I was doing, in-person tenant inductions. I've now had to change that because I just haven't got the capacity, particularly for the properties that are further away to be doing an in-person induction, as I've gotten busier so I've had to readjust my process. Um, so it's all those little things that, I guess, have taken up the time still clusters.
Speaker 1:I think working on your business like that's still a process and procedure. Um, one figure I was just going to bring up, just got my calculator to work it out to give you a bit of an idea. But I've always worked on that because I used to have a lot of part-timers. So for every hour that someone works, they should be able to look after between three to five properties per hour that they work, depending on their experience, how long they've been with a company for, et cetera. So, based on three properties per hour, on 40 properties, you should be allocating around 14 hours a week of work to the actual management of it.
Speaker 1:I'm only sharing that. So you've got a bit of an idea, which is I mean you might be doing more, but let's just round it up to three hours a day. Three hours a day of your day should be doing your actual rent, careers, maintenance, lease renewals, et cetera. If you're doing any more than that, then I always say to people now if you're doing more than that, you've got either you're too slow, number one or number two. Your processes need to have better efficiency and you just have to work out which one it is and then tweak it. So that's just like my little tip.
Speaker 2:I was like I'm definitely working more than 14 hours.
Speaker 1:No but yes, but I mean on the properties, like just on the property management.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and I think, looking at my calendar, I would say probably 60% of it is, you know, meetings, bdm activities rather than, I guess, property management activities per se but definitely had to readjust a lot of processes to find some more efficient ways of doing things.
Speaker 1:And if you then look at that number and then say to yourself, okay, so if it's meant to be, then say to yourself, okay, so if it's, if it's meant to be, um, you know, three hours per day, that's 15 hours per week. Um, having a va for 15 hours per week to do the arrears, the lease renewals, the signups, the entry in that's could be quite like. That's sort of how I would sort of assess how much time you need support for. So I think a 15, 15 to 20 hour BA to start off with would be good and then increase the hours as that growth happens as well.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. I really like that calculation. Even though it's a little bit eye-opening, it's a good rule of thumb, so thanks for sharing that yeah.
Speaker 1:I used to have some property managers that worked 10 hours a week. Others worked like 18 hours, 25. And it was really hard to actually work out a formula. So that's where that one's come from. So, yeah, hopefully that helps. And then my last question for you today is how do you like, do you have a plan with your implementation? So, obviously, from even IGT conference, there would have been a few things to implement there. I have noticed one of the ones that you have been doing, which was, um, the um, variety of videos. You've changed now, which is great, because I know that Dennis had mentioned that to you about the variety um, so that's good to see that happening.
Speaker 2:One of the things, too, which you might not have noticed, but I did. You spoke about how and I'm probably going to butcher this, but with recording, the videos don't be perfect. You're actually more endearing to people when you stuff up and have bloopers and before hearing, hearing that I would do six or seven takes until it was perfect if there was like a hair sitting on my shoulder. No, we're going to re-record it like I was perfectionist city. I have been trying to let some of that go because I like the fact that people would find it more endearing if it's not 100 perfect um.
Speaker 1:So I have been implementing that so how many takes are you doing per video?
Speaker 2:well, and I'm, for the first time ever, I'm actually trying not to re-watch them, um, as I always did to make sure it was perfect, um, so now it's just more of a record and push go, so good job, and which is, you know, saves time too, um, not having it all perfect, um. And so, in terms of your original question, trying to, I guess, implement things, I'm trying to time block wherever I can, um, because I find that I've always struggled with focus, always the next shiny thing to look at. So I'm trying to just set dedicated blocks in my calendar to just, rather than go. I want to take this whole project and it's going to take, for example, 15 hours to put in place, just doing like an hour here and there, rather than not only getting overwhelmed by it, but at least then there's just little baby steps to to get through some of the bigger stuff yeah, and and just being present of the, the journey, um, and not stress too much about that end result.
Speaker 1:I think it's important. I was listening to a podcast this morning and it said people that are so focused on the future, they lose sight of the moment and today. And, yeah, just trusting that if you just do those little things each day, you know that consistency will benefit you in the future as well. For me, I started using the Reminder app on my iPhone, and so whenever I think of anything that I want to do or an idea, I just pop it on there and then do you say hey to yours?
Speaker 2:yeah, the reminder app and I've got so many lists in there. There's like I've got like a, like a personal list, so if I've got to go pick up some dry cleaning, it's on the personal list and that's the beauty of it that you can add it in any time. You can even ask Siri to add it in while you. The personal list, and that's the beauty of it that you can add it in any time.
Speaker 1:You can even ask siri to add it in while you're driving correct and that's probably been the best um way to manage that I've ever found. So I haven't been doing it for that long, but it's definitely been the easiest um because I was using my inbox as my to-do list. I'll send myself an email, and then someone said to me you should not be using your inbox as a tool, apparently.
Speaker 2:Yeah so that's why.
Speaker 1:I do it. But now, um, like each morning, I look at it and I sort of think to myself you know, is there anything that I can quickly do this morning or, um, implement? Or maybe on the weekend, if I've got some quiet time, I'll sort of look at it and I'm trying to tick off a couple of things a week. I mean, I'm sure I'm probably adding on five things a week and ticking off two, but it's still progress. And at least I think just getting it out of your mind is probably the first thing to do. Or if you're having a little lull or you need some motivation, I always go back to that list and go okay, well, what can I do on this list that can help me? So I do highly recommend the simplicity of that recommend the simplicity of that.
Speaker 2:I've probably complicated it because I've got like a today list and then like a must-do list and so each morning I just move like two things to the must-do. So then like, because you can move them between lists- and that yeah and I'm yeah, you are, you are.
Speaker 1:You see, sometimes some people create more work for themselves. My list has got everything in the one and I'm just having a quick look at it and I have got like. I mean, no one would understand what I'm looking like, what like?
Speaker 2:my code is for stuff.
Speaker 1:But I just put everything I've got my favourite, like a recipe that I've seen that I want to cook in there. I've got people I want to email. I've got you know know, scheduling, this type of podcast I've got. I'm currently tracking my petrol use. I put petrol last filled up 18th of November, just stuff like that, because I um, I've got a hybrid car and I'm trying to reduce the amount of petrol that I use. So it's like if I put it in there the last date that I filled up and then if I use electricity all the time, then yeah, so it's like your own personal stack of post-it notes really 100%.
Speaker 1:That's exactly what it is, so, but I like it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I've always found it to be beneficial and I'm surprised how many people don't know that that's actually an app in their iPhone. I speak to people about it all the time.
Speaker 1:I know it's really good.
Speaker 1:But, yeah, excellent. Well, hopefully there is a few gold nuggets for people, and I appreciate you being confident in me enough to be able just to ask these questions on a live recording. So I think they're helpful and it's very, you know, it's also brave to do that as well, so I appreciate that. I think that we should do another one, which I will schedule in again, because I think this is going to be really good just to continue for your progress, but I think we'll do it closer to before you go away. So is that in April? So if I schedule one in for like towards like maybe mid-March or something like that, yeah, I think it's the end of April that we go.
Speaker 1:Okay. So probably okay, maybe then I'll do sort of sometime in the first week of August, so you'll get a calendar invite so we'll book it in and have it done, and I think it's really great to track the progress and hopefully it sort of helps you a little bit as well with the accountability absolutely.
Speaker 2:It's a huge help, so thank you thank you wonderful.
Speaker 1:Well, I will speak to you before then anyway, otherwise I'll have that booked in. For those that haven't listened to Sky's first podcast um, it wasn't that long ago. Go back and find that one, listen to that first and then come back, um, and well, actually you've already listened to this one, so don't come back and listen to it because you've listened to it. But, um, but yeah, go back and listen to the first one if you want to have a listen to those first things and very much. You know it's a diary of uh Skye Taylor's um launch to being in her business full-time, taking those risks, um, trusting herself, trusting the universe and um knowing that it all worked out it does absolutely.
Speaker 2:Thanks, skye.